Friday, April 22, 2011

UD: Comment (Actually a Critical Question) on "Good Friday Thoughts"

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I asked this earlier, but didn't get an answer so I'll ask again.

If I hold that ID has the most powerful explanatory power, but don't think any real agency exists,
 am I still an IDer?

By this I mean in the context of an atomic model that - while not accurate to scale - still gives us
 a better understanding of how the whole thing works.
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ENV: First comment on, "The New Evangelism"

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Like all theistic evolutionists - he's either not aware of the discrepancy he's ignoring or he's really
just another front-loader unwilling to admit what he really thinks. Case in point:

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2007/10/behe_to_miller_youre_an_intell004407.html
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Wednesday, April 13, 2011

First Comment on "Paradox of Randomness"

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Interesting post! And pretty relevant to Behe's EoE as well. Amazing how many people accused
 him of making a pure estimate of his own in malarial resistance to chloroquine. Or claim that he
 ignored that there are already a trillion malaria cells in a single infected person.
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Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Second comment on "Understanding Ontogenetic Depth, Part II"

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In terms of PZ's response to you, the only claims he made related to the subject of your posts is
as follows:

"Step one is simply cell adhesion. Step two is gene regulation. Step three is epigenetics. That's it."

Now that's attention to detail. No surprise though that most of his response dealt with accusing
you of quoting out of context - the opposition can get pretty worked up when their own views
are put under critical scrutiny.
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Monday, April 11, 2011

Understanding Ontogenetic Depth, Part II - Second comment

Apparently the use of the term "natural selection" over "evolution" requires justification when critiquing selection itself. Otherwise, the discussion becomes just plain confusing. Who knew?

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I guess maybe I am pointing out the obvious, but whatever.

Nelson is elaborating on a hurdle that he holds selection cannot cross. Hence his use of the term "Natural Selection."
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UD - "Does Life Use a Non-Random Set of Amino Acids?"

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Wow, that was an excellent post on ENV! You've been doing an excellent job keeping tabs on some worthwhile arguments relevant to the debate at hand.

Up until now I didn't think much of the issue of amino acid compositions beyond the fact that there are 20 typically used, and they are all left-handed.

Looks like there's even more constraint to the picture than most in the field would be willing to accept.

Abiogenesis just got harder.
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First (sort of...) Comment on "I'm from Missouri"

Ran into this blog (and it's author) on the internet before, it's been quite a while. Glad he left a comment on ENV or I would've almost forgotten the whole ordeal.

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What up Larry! It's been years since I first came across your blog back in the day; I left a pretty
hefty amount of comments but that was then. I think we ran into each other on Youtube at one
point too and I didn't realize you were the same person.

I plan on being a new follower for as long as it remains active!

- -Jeffrey Helix
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Comment on UD - "The Nature of Nature - Sticky"

It's about time this book came out!

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An excellent compilation! I recognize many of the contributions from elsewhere and even those
were worth rereading again. Fazale Rana's chapter on molecular convergence comes to mind; I
first read that chapter in "The Cell's Design" and it's amazing to see how relevant that subject
has become now that Morris has made some heavy contributions in that area (while taking a less
overt stance on what the implications are).

This book will take me a month to finish. It's one of those must haves that should be
included with some of the IDEA Center kits given to club start ups. It's a shame the Polanyi
Center was shut down, but it's great to see that something of real significance resulted from it
and will keep the memory of it alive!
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Friday, April 8, 2011

Understanding Ontogenetic Depth Part II - First comment

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That sure was a long read, would've fit nicely in "The Nature of Nature."

On second thought, that book is probably going to take me AT LEAST another month to plow
through, so maybe space constraints would've been an issue...

Never thought I'd have any respect for a young-earther, but you Paul seem to be a major
exception. I guess I just don't care what anyone personally interprets from a sacred text, so
long as that same text in question isn't used exclusively to draw a conclusion (and yes, that
standard applies to Ken Miller and Francis Collins as well for those of you who wish to take that
out of context).

Now the waiting game begins for critics to tell you your explanation wasn't clear enough, and
demand that you try again.
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